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Venus Dee Milo ([personal profile] celebrityskinned) wrote in [community profile] thearena2014-01-26 03:15 am

Just Look at How Close We Are [Closed]

WHO| Venus and any Amis who want to join in, but especially Courfeyrac.
WHAT| Venus sends a message to all her Sponsors, and then goes to find an ally.
WHEN| Week 2
WHERE| Fourth floor.
WARNINGS| Mentions of Venus' injuries.


The gift shop has cheap, themed makeup; Venus grabs a Brainiac Green and a Vakarian Gunmetal in eyeshadow. She considers a Vantas' Blood lipgloss, then decides that she needs something a little more demure and selects one titled 'Lottie'. It's a watery pink so thin it's practically nude on Venus' lips. Thankfully, there's foundation in her skin tone.

It all looks like a joke on her ghastly face. Kankri did the best he could with the stitches, but even the most skilled plastic surgeon couldn't have kept Venus from looking completely mutilated. While mercifully uninfected, the gash bisecting her across the nose is deep and ugly and jagged, and the sutures look comically Frankensteinish. The right side of her head has gone from purple to a vomitous yellow tone, and the fading black eye looks almost slate grey. She has a distinct limp now, and when she stands one side of her body sags at the knee.

She uses only a little makeup, just enough to hide some of the worst bruising and give her eyes a little extra glitter. It's her charisma that, she hopes, will draw her beauty out from under the gore, that will make her painful to look at and yet easy enough to swallow that she doesn't have to be edited down to a mere clip.

She spends almost an hour finding the right spot, trying to analyze where she would put a camera if she were trying to get the best view of the action. When she finds a location with good lighting, she takes a seat and, looking in the direction she hopes is straight-on to a viewer, starts speaking. Her hands are in her lap.

"I hope that everyone in the Capitol knows how grateful I am for your support. Timaeus, Enjolras, Azula, and all my anonymous Sponsors - without you I would be dead, but." She waves a hand at her maimed face. "You know what they say about the stars and plastic surgery. I guess I'm not too young to go under the knife."

She doesn't let herself become distracted while she talks. She delivers her statements directly forward, making eye contact with people she can't see, smiling even as it tugs at the edges of her wound.

"It's strange, doing all this inside a museum. You might even say it's ironic, you know, laying all us down to die at the feet of history. I recognize some of this history from my world, and obviously, well, we got it wrong, because Panem's come in and corrected some of our inaccuracies. I'm noticing so much has been updated since then."

Rather, some of it's been censored, altered, turned into mere propaganda. Venus isn't the most educated person in the Games but even she can smell the fish on some of these plaques.

"I'm not much of a history buff, but I know that Panem's history was paved in blood, and the history of my own country before that. And I don't want to diminish that, because that's what you're all watching for, isn't it? You take the time to get to know each and every one of us so that you never forget who died to let you live in peace. But the part that should also be recognized is the work of the people behind the scenes."

She pulls a Sponsor canister from beside her into view. Her token, the wire and bead pendant from District Five, twinkles in the light.

"You don't have to die to make a difference. These gifts came to me when I was bleeding out on the floor. That's why I'm taking the moment to thank the people, the mechanisms we cannot see that support the people who fight."

There's a pause, and she holds the canister close to her chest.

"Anyway. I'd especially like to thank my mentors. I didn't know if you'd come through for me, especially Enjolras, because you're so new to the post." She knows that back home, viewers are watching, waiting for some announcement of love that the tabloids have declared is imminent. She lets a pause in her words hang.

But she doesn't want to say that, because she doubts that if he needs to hear anything, it'll br a grandiose declaration of affections he doesn't reciprocate. Instead she reflects on Courfeyrac's return, on walking on the beach knowing that everyone at the barricades died. She wonders if Enjolras is still stubbornly not watching, if he's holed up in his room 'reading' as a way to avoid people all too eager to fill him in on the gruesome details.

What she says is "I put my faith in you for good reason. Thank you, my friend. I won't forget it."

-/-

Once she's done making her little speech, she goes looking for Courfeyrac. With the early events of the Arena, she didn't prioritize finding him. She expects he's already allied with Marius and Cosette, and that the three of them are doing quite well for themselves.

She tells Kankri she'll be back soon, and with that she staggers off to check each room one by one. Wounded as she is, she gets exhausted after each long hallway, each chamber filled with skeletons and diagrams and drawings of ancient creatures. It takes her nearly three hours to get far enough into the fourth floor to see familiar dark curls, and when she does she's so eager to just end her search that she doesn't much bother with stealth.

"Courfeyrac!" she whispers when she sees him. She lifts her hand up, waving over a display with a les Amis d'ABC pin from the giftshop tucked between her fingers like a flower. She hopes the fact that her clothing is stained with so much blood it's easy to miss the original tiger-print pattern doesn't terrify him too badly.
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[personal profile] libertin 2014-01-27 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
"Venus?" There is no mistaking the concern in his voice as he rushes to her side. Even if she were not his best friend's alleged mistress, he would be worried for her in her present state. The fact that her well being ultimately matters to Enjolras only causes further alarm for him. The cockade she's holding only registers to him after he's already taken her in and blanched at the blood. "Dear God. Forgive me, my dear, but you look terrible."
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-01-28 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Through some miracle or other, Joly's managed to make his way to the fourth floor, and while he's a bit shaken, he has not been here nearly long enough to do anything to get himself even injured a little yet. As he moves, he's muttering to himself, conjugating Latin verbs because better that, to occupy his mind than to consider anything else.

But then, a little across the way, he's spotting a familiar head of unruly hair, and even though he's been told, essentially that he should not trust anyone here, he's moving in that direction almost automatically. Courfeyrac here too? Of course that cannot be. He'd rather imagined...

And he's forgetting what he imagined as he draws closer, noticing the girl his friend is helping, and oh, she looks so terrible, and so in need of help that all panic, all muttered conjugations, and even a greeting for his friend are quite forgotten in the moment.

"Courfeyrac." His tone has switched to a more professional, doctor's tone, such as he used at the barricades both now, and in 1830. "Your lady seems in need of help. Is there somewhere in this we might take her so I can do so?"

Not quite sent by the sponsors but...he'll do his best to be of help anyway?
libertin: (now i'm passing the bar like a lawyer)

[personal profile] libertin 2014-01-28 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
"Then it is a good thing that I am here to turn your situation around. Come, let me help you, my dear. Our tent is not far."

He's prepared to carry Venus back to their camp if need be, if she would allow it, of course, and he's so engrossed in her that he almost doesn't hear the other voice in spite of it's familiarity. He might have chalked it up to a hallucination, a peculiar wandering of his imagination due to the stress of the Arena. But the voice seems to real, so comforting, like his friend might be there, standing right behind him. At last, he whips his head around to see.

"Joly!" There's nothing calm or professional in his voice. For Courfeyrac, it is all emotional. Elation and rage, mingled together in a toxic and furious combination. Grasping Venus tightly still, he shakes his head in disbelief. "This cannot be. It cannot be. I've gone mad in this place."
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-01-28 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Had Joly not noticed someone in need of medical aid, he himself would not be as professional as he's seeming right now. Just a few moments earlier, he'd been glancing over his shoulder, each of them, before taking every step, trying to hold his breath so he wouldn't breathe too loudly or sneeze, letting things repeat themselves in his head so that he couldn't become lost in a full blown panic, and very close to that edge. As it is, it's likely that, once she's seen to, he's going to be back in that state again.

Especially at seeing Courfeyrac trapped in this too. This means, a part of him points out, that there is the chance, however slim, that he is going to have to be killed by, or kill his friend. His heart is beating faster with that and he doesn't like it very much, is in fact, trying to stop it, and though he manages, partly, his hands are still shaking terribly.

"Not mad, Courfeyrac. They've...managed to get me in this too. I..." No, the patient, he reminds himself, focus on HER just now.

"Well. There is not time for that now, is there?" Then he's stepping closer, being sure not to touch either of them though he's close enough, lest the stress send one of them into a bad state now. "Mademoiselle, I am a doctor. Nearly. I can help you, I think."


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[personal profile] libertin 2014-01-28 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
He barely loosens his grip on Venus, easing up enough so that he won't hurt her any longer. "Yes, he's one of us. He's... I cannot believe he is here."

Letting his friend come in closer and take control of the situation, Courfeyrac at last has a chance to breath and really take in this twist of events. Of course, he understood it was possible that others of Les Amis might be brought into the Games, but he'd never expected to find Joly in the Arena. He hadn't even realized it was possible.

"Joly can help you, Venus." Looking back to his old friend, he continues, "We have supplies and clean water waiting there."
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-01-28 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, Joly doubts that very much. Who knows what could get into those gashes? Certainly, they've had SOME attention, but even so, they're looking not so great now. There's a fear of infection, certainly, and Joly's pursing his lips as he looks Venus over, considering this.

"I would feel better if I knew for certain. Mademoiselle Venus." He answers, giving a nod at the suggestion that they keep moving for now. Whatever else, he's aware that IS a good idea at any rate.

"But yes, as both of you say, this is most certainly not the place for any of this, is it? Best you lead on then, Courfeyrac. And we can take proper precautions and make introductions there."

And he can stave off the fear a little longer, has to stave it off because he's needed, and now, with Courfeyrac here, he'll have some familiar protection, it seems for now.

"Ah, learning curves." Joly is adding, shaking his head a little ruefully. "This does look to be harder than most."
libertin: (slept cold on the floor recording)

[personal profile] libertin 2014-01-28 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
He nods in agreement, going slowly still so that there isn't too much strain on Venus' injured leg. He wonders if Marius and Cosette have returned to the camp or if they are still exploring the floor for supplies. Either way, it will be an unpleasant surprise for them to find an injured young woman at their campsite.

"It isn't far," he explains, shifting his arm to better support Venus. With his free hand, he gestures toward the hall of fossils. "We are established near the alleged mammals."

As they walk, he at last has a decent chance to look Joly over, and were they not in an alternately stressful situation, Courfeyrac may have been moved to tears at the sight of him. For the last time he saw Joly...

No. He wouldn't think about the barricade now.

"Here we are. You see? Behind the elephant." The elephant which is, more precisely, a wooly mammoth, but whose keeping score here? Tucked away in a corner is a single person tent, a single sleeping bag which was unzipped and flattened out, and two small stacks of supplies of food, water, and medical goods. In all honesty it looks more like the dwelling of children who don't know how to properly prepare for an outdoor adventure than the encampment of three able bodied and intelligent adults. But it's protected, and more importantly, no one else has found it yet.
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-01-28 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
As they approach the spot, Joly can't help but find himself a little nervous at the prospect of dead animals, camping out behind them. It is not, after all, what he might have chosen. But then again, Courfeyrac appears to have been at this for a while, and it DOES seem as though camping here will keep them all relatively unseen. At the moment, beggars can't be choosers, and, well, the elephant invokes a few memories here.

"Gavroche." he mutters, smiling in spite of the situation being what it is, then looks to Venus to explain this, a little more. "A friend of ours at home lived in a giant elephant statue." It's a somewhat pleasant thought at least, before he's turning his attention fully back to Venus.

"Disinfecting it is good. Very good in fact." His tones there are approving. "Now, if you will allow me to see to your leg and what we might do about making this more comfortable? The swelling worries me a bit, though that is normal at this stage, and I should check..."

He's feeling for a temperature, wanting to rule out a fever or other infection derived illness. "Have you had any odd drainage from your wounds? Seeping or perhaps leaking anything? Any sort of chills or weakness beyond what could be expected from this?"

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[personal profile] libertin 2014-01-29 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
Quickly, he drags over one of the boxes that they'd previously determined had triage supplies inside, offering it to Joly. He then went about trying to make Venus comfortable by offering the sleeping bag to her. Settling beside Joly, he prepares to let the medical student do what he must while remaining handy. Courfeyrac doesn't react poorly to the sight of blood or gore, but it isn't exactly pleasant to see someone he knows and admires in such a state of distress.

"Who did this to you, Venus?" And what do they look like? Did she get her revenge? Courfeyrac is certain she would not have gone down without a valiant fight.
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-01-29 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
Those details, even if they are spared, are plenty disturbing, and he'll mull them over later, certainly. He does spare a thought towards the fact that this seems even worse than they described. Well, many things in life are, aren't they? Still, this..Panem place seems to take that to an entirely new level. So, that's a stage, probably stage one as these things go.

And another one is coming as he glances around for something to clean his hands with, sees nothing, and then sets to work as he is. As far as that bruise...he's not seen one exactly like it before, though the smell is certainly, well... It has Joly wrinkling his nose in concern there.

"Ah, too many indeed. This does smell rather suspect. Some sort of poultice would be best for it, I think. I did see plant life among our mammals here. There may be SOMETHING I can use. If I had everything I needed, I would suggest leeches. It does not seem we have to think of bleeding yet. I'd rather avoid that if we could. Painful and it also would be risky, exposing another new wound to the miasmas that I'm certain must be floating around this place."

"I think that it can still be helped though, if we clean it first before I go to try and find what we might need."

"As for Gavroche," Because a change of subject is good, after all, especially at times like now. "He was a gamin, a child of the streets who was a ally and a good friend to many of us. He lived in the statue of an elephant. A monument that had been left unattended. It made a safe enough shelter from what I understand of it, especially for the innovative and intelligent as he was."

And he's pausing, looking at the wound again, and the location. "If you might, I think it may be best to have you do the washing up on your own. We can look away for that, and then I may be able to set out."

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[personal profile] libertin 2014-01-30 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Courfeyrac stays silent for far longer than is typical of him, watching the proceedings while keeping a careful distance out of the way. Still, it's nearly impossible to avert his eyes from the injury. Trauma seems to have a hypnotic effect on the eye.

Suddenly, something else occurs to him, and in a flash he's out of his perch and rifling through the small pile of supplies. "Where are you, you... Aha! Our savior has come!"

Grinning like a cat, he rejoins the party with a folded pamphlet in hand. "Here we are, Docteur. I cleverly snatched this up from the cornucopia, and having no need of it, I stashed it away. But I see now that this will benefit us all! It is, as you will see, a guide to the plants and herbs on display in this museum. Perhaps this, combined with your knowledge and skill, will allow for a rapid recovery to Mademoiselle."

He gives Venus a reassuring look then, reaching for her hand. "We will do everything for you, Venus. I swear it."

And he'll find that Kevin bastard and make him pay, too.
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[Warning: outdated medical advice. Don't tilt your head back with a bloody nose today, kids.]

[personal profile] medecin 2014-01-30 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
"Not you exactly. The wound itself and only the wound." Joly is quick to assure Venus. "My dear lady, I think you could never. And as there are no leeches to be had, it is a bridge we should not need to cross." Ah more people who don't like leeches. Joly has no real problem with them himself, since they are a necessity he'd had to get used to, along with maggots, but finding those and using them is not likely to happen here either. He has the feeling that he should not even mention the maggots here.

"Ah yes. He certainly was. Very streetwise, very smart in every other way too...Courfeyrac, you mentioned a guide?" The news of that is amazing, practically Christmas to him, and he'll reach over and study that in a moment.

"Your head is back already, but if you might tilt it a little more, that could help with the bleeding." Joly is also pressing a pad of some sort of cotton to Venus's nose now. "Pressure ought to help stop the flow as well."

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o7

[personal profile] libertin 2014-01-31 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Courfeyrac is no fan of leeches either, mostly leeches indicates sickness, and sickness indicates death. Also, they are just straight up gross. But he understands the necessity, and if Joly really thinks they would help...

"Yes, the guide." A pleasant change of topic, indeed. He waves the guide under Joly's nose. "All of the plants in the museum are listed here. And I'd wager there will be quite a selection to choose from. Perhaps something which can ease Mademoiselle's pain and suffering."

He smiles at Venus, trying to be supportive. Then, he catches the discussion of Gavroche. "Yes, Venus. I am told Gavroche was here."
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Re: o7

[personal profile] medecin 2014-01-31 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
There IS something to say for patients' rights, as much as anything else, and they should be allowed to consent, that much is true. Joly finds himself nodding at that. "No leeches in this case then." He's agreeing, not entirely wanting to, but...

Courfeyrac's guide, which he is eagerly accepting and delving into, does provide distraction from that topic. "Certainly there is something else here, which can prove to be useful."

Gavroche...not brought back? That is horrible, in and of itself, though, perhaps,a voice inside his head points out, better he's not in the arena to suffer what he had at home. It's not that he would not like to see him and see him well but...this place is not conducive to any wellness he is personally aware of.

"He was brave, and kinder than many would have been, who had his life." He's saying now. "Perhaps it's better he is spared this, somehow, terrible as it feels to say." And then, well, better focus on the living, right? He's delving into that guide again, with more of a surge of focus than before. He won't let anyone else die here of something that he might prevent if he can help it now.
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[personal profile] libertin 2014-01-31 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
"I agree. It is better that he is elsewhere" Courfeyrac says, not wanting to show anyone how saddened he is by the reality of the boy's demise. He does not wish to let anyone in the Capitol know what Gavroche had meant to them on their final day. It was enough that the child's sister should suffer. Why tempt them to bring him back?

"Is there anything I can do to aid you, Joly? Perhaps you can tell me which plants to get and I can fetch them for you while you tend to your patient." He looks to Venus, and staying strong for her sake, decides not to comment on her state any further.
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-01-31 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
She's been here longer than he has, so Joly is nodding at that advice. Much in the same way he's decided not to mention, and to try not to think about Bossuet and Musichetta, it would be equally as bad to let a stray tongue bring Gavroche back here, and Venus obviously knows what she is doing.

"Good point." He is quick enough to agree. "The tongue is not the sea, but it can drown you all the same." He would hate to see what sort of drowning the gamemakers come up with.

That next question, directed to Courfeyrac as it is, still sets Joly to snicker, a little. "Is our young Marius grown THAT far out of his shyness to discuss this then? I'd rather imagine him going miserable throughout the arena than requesting someone watch as he helps to create the beast with two backs,somehow."

And as for Courfeyrac's question, Joly IS at least paying attention to the lists, as he considers, finding a few bits of plantlife that may very well work. "Have we anything to write with? It may go faster if I just note what might work well."
Edited 2014-01-31 09:00 (UTC)
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[personal profile] libertin 2014-01-31 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Courfeyrac feels a little guilty discussing Marius' marital state and spreading gossip, but that feeling lasts all of two seconds before it gives way to the thrill of being allowed to vent. "If anyone will be using it as a lovenest, it will be me. I risked life and limb to get it, I should get the best use of it, no?"

He thinks then of their viewing audience, eyebrows raised in amusement. Perhaps an injection of drama would ensure that they all live to see another day.

"They do nothing but fawn. Marius cannot stand to sleep, lest something happen to Cosette as he does. It seems that his faith in me does not extend to watching over him and his sleeping wife." He rolls his eyes, sharing a quick grin with Venus. "After all, it is not my fault Cosette kissed me."

As for the guide, they will have to make plans without a writing utensil. Courfeyrac double checks the bag it came in, and alas there is none. "I am afraid I've come up short."
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-01-31 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"Then you of anyone should have it by all means." Joly flashes Courfeyrac a little grin, in spite of the situation. "May your romantic endeavours be in tents, my friend."

As far as Marius goes though,that has Joly frowning. "Still as serious a case as when we left him then." It would seem to him that the best thing to do,in that case, would be to allow the lady to win in the arena, that she never has to go into one again. Marius would pine, perhaps, but he would know she was safe,and be perhaps less of a danger. "Well, we shall do our best to keep an eye on him, to prove we might be trusted." Perhaps, he thinks, looking over the list of plants again, lips moving a little as he reads through them, remembering properties, they can induce him to sleep without realizing it. It seems that it would be far fairer somehow, to get him out of the way for a while,and to have him wake with a clear head as well.

"I have a theory on how we might make him a bit useful and get those puppy eyes focused. There are some Linden flowers here." And he's circling, using Venus's pen with a grateful nod. "And chamomile among some others. They should help us ensure he has some sleep, and the Linden can make a paste for that wound of yours as well. It should clean and bring down swelling, and we needn't do very much to have them prepared as anything. Mint, as well, there should be plenty of it...And let Marius see it later, if anything, it may help him to realize he is doing no one,least of all, his lady wife, much good like this." He's willing to let Marius see the truth, if it will help even a little.
Edited 2014-01-31 23:38 (UTC)
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[personal profile] libertin 2014-02-01 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Venus is a lifesaver, and once again Courfeyrac is grateful to have her as an ally. He pets her shoulder gently in thanks of the pen, then rejoins Joly to look at the plant guide.

"I trust the pair of you can manage yourselves while I am away?"
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-02-02 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Right. That bloodstain there IS actually a problem as far as Joly is concerned.

"Do we have anything in the way of extra clothing, any of us? I should hate to get that cleaned out properly, and risk a greater infection from the blood."

He can't help grinning though, at the commentary. "Ah,someone to appreciate my wit, and add to it not only in words, but in speaking the truth. I think we ought to do just fine."
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[personal profile] libertin 2014-02-03 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
"The only cloth we have is on our backs or constituting our tent." He frowns, an idea occurring late enough to embarrass him. "But I will search for some. Perhaps there is a display which can be dismantled. If there are bones and skins, there must be cloth somewhere."

Squeezing Venus one last time, he stands, patting Joly as he heads away from them. "I shall return. I will knock on the wall first. Listen for it."
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-02-03 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
That's prompting a small frown from Joly. "I would hope you do not attempt that until I've seen to the rest of things properly at least." But there is some time first for him to continue working on getting her leg wound as well cleaned as possible in the moment.

There seemed to be some kind of sutures in the kit and that is heartening, certainly. Nothing to be used until Courfeyrac is back, but they'll be helpful. For now, he is making use of the gauze found in the kit to continue cleaning.

As far as himself...well.

"I am not quite certain where to begin, I suppose. I was a year from my degree at the Paris Medical School, and I quite enjoy reading of advances in science to begin with.

[His interest in politics and the nature of Les Amis did not seem fitting for the cameras if they were watching, somehow.]
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-02-04 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
"Indeed you are, Mademoiselle." Joly is nodding right back at the eyeroll. "And I should think you would not wish to risk making it worse for a while yet. Surely you have far more sense than that, I've already seen that demonstrated." He adds, trying a smile.

As for the museum himself,he is not QUITE sure that he wishes to wander through it and risk anything happening, but, then again, he could do it on the guise of scavenging and gathering. "I would like that. It seems like so many things have changed, and they've done well to detail all of that here."
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-02-04 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
"Of that, I certainly have no doubts." Ordinarily at least. Under these circumstances, well, there is the possibility of infection getting worse, going to the brain, perhaps...it is simply better to be safe than sorry later. Even if they will, according to what Joly has been told, be here until all but one has died.

Joly finds himself nodding as she speaks He does not know much OF America beyond what he knew of their revolution, really, so he is not quite certain what to ask. Something else she mentioned sticks out a bit more, though.

"That is something many women are denied still, at home. And it is something that should not be. I do not dare presume to speak for members of your sex, but I will say that my...that I know women at home." He corrects himself, lest he mention Musichetta by name, "Who have done more with what limited education they have been allotted than certain other friends at the law school. And Enjolras is a good teacher, certainly."
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-02-06 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
"Oh I did not mean to speak of you." Joly found himself quickly correcting that with a smile. "Merely that I have friends, even a few in particular, who do not take things quite so seriously as they ought, when they've already been granted the right to such an education by virtue of unfair advantages. I will not say that I have not been lucky by the same advantage, of course."

After all, Joly must consent, for the sake of fairness, to own what is his to own, even if it is unpleasant, even as he wishes that things might be changed that everyone might have such opportunity.

"It was the aim of our society, in part," Their public one, at least. "I am certain Enjolras has likely told you more of many of our other purposes as well." That seems a good enough way of steering around announcing that he may be trouble. "That all who are qualified may be able to access the education that they need. Why should it not be a woman as well as a man? And? As well? It is not as though women never require doctoring themselves, who may be more comforted by the presence of another woman rather than a man."

Ideas cultivated, perhaps, by long conversations on the subject, with Combeferre, but that does not mean he does not agree, merely that his fellow medical student had helped him to sort his thoughts into the proper words. "I'll say though, that we were not quite a society who held views in vogue with the rest of society, though we'd hoped to try."

"Heroics though?" And he's leaning forward a bit, with interest. While he is not quite a Romantic, he does favor this type of tale when the mood strikes. "Well, you must tell me more."
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-02-08 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
"One could surely not suspect that you were joking. Though I've found that the most stubborn of individuals, a mutual friend in particular," Three guesses as to whom, and the first two did not count, "...while capabable, are also capable of taking on greater risks while pressing on through injuries." It was said gently, at least, without Joly attempting to chide Venus for anything, so there was that. Instead, he focused on the rest of this.

"Do you indeed? A worthy cause I think," He added, smiling. "Still, one that takes much from those involved. You have my admiration for it, truly." As did many who fought for others, who were forced to make those horrible, difficult choices that did not seem choices at all to him. He was better off, himself, by all intents and purposes from his position outside of the realm of hero. That seemed a heavy conversation to end on as it was though.

"Enjolras certainly...knows his way with words." He settled on.
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[personal profile] medecin 2014-02-09 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
"I suppose few of us brought into this are, at that." Joly found himself musing. He knew that he certainly was not in this to emerge as the victor of anything. He suspected that, should it ever happen, it would be through a circumstance like those his friend had faced, luck and circumstances. He did not quite think that he could LIKE becoming a victor in the end. Sitting aside and watching something like this? It had to be far worse for many. Was that not, as Courfeyrac had explained, part of the purpose of the punishment for what had happened?

Odd, though, that here, they went ahead and seemed, really to enjoy these things. Though the Capitol he heard about was different, surely humanity was humanity in the end? He would have thought it once, at least.

As far as that went, well. THAT Was something he could certainly speak to. "We did joke amongst ourselves he did not know what women were beyond some abstract image. It certainly always seemed true."

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[personal profile] medecin 2014-02-10 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
"I rather like that idea myself." Joly agreed with the sentiment. "It simply seems, well, bloodsport is wasted on my skills unless it is the sort of bloodsport where I am allowed to act as medic after. Much else, well. I would rather know someone else had been helped through me, I suppose."

It's true, really, and part of why he's a doctor, and not, well, more in the realm of the law students. He may not have taken his final vows yet, and they may apply to medical practice alone, but well. Doing no harm is something Joly takes quite seriously, save when the question becomes one of protecting a friend or innocent from harm. Or in the cases where he's needed to do harm to be a greater help, but, no thinking of that here. Instead, he is laughing at the suggestion there.

"Perhaps we ought, and yes, I think he does at times."