He doesn't hold back the shudder, and even makes it more noticeable. It was like he was imagining a nest of spiders dumped on his back or glued to the insides of his shorts- and don't think he's a stranger to the sensation. It was easy to recall. "His messes sure are unique," he offers, not too sure he feels like liking Joel much after the revelation. "Most you can pick up with a little scoop and plastic bag. Sounds like the plastic bag needed here will be a little bigger. Range from four to six feet."